Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works 08 Reaction
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9:44 rick’s konosuba reference.
They constantly draw parallels between the two, shiro immediately bases his fighting style on archers and it’s already established that shiro is a talented archer. There’s hardly a suspicious leap of logic here.
As soon as Eric noted that Shirou got slashed & Archer started to disappear, you could tell he knew or at least had a strong feeling.
Man Eric was already picking up on it the last episode. You could tell he wanted to say it, but he felt stupid for thinking it to be possible. It’s not that strange for Rick to just come out & say it. Especially after Eric has already connected all the dots.
The show already hinted at it slightly in 2 previous episodes….and these guys stick around discussing for 15-20 mins what they saw….which most of us don’t, we just see it and either move on the next episode or just get distracted doing something else. They’re sharp, and with so much discussion they were bound to figure it out quite sooner than most. The good thing is….the show was structured so there’s no “KEY” reveal… it keeps throwing hints until it suddenly just assumes you know.
Type Moon friends, Can we please try to convince Blindwave to watch The garden of sinners (Kara no Kyōkai) during their movie nights, it would be great for there knowledge of fate lore and for their inevitable heaven’s feel watch. If we can get them to watch lord el melloi ii before they finish unlimited blade works, it would be even more amazing!!
you guys are so frustrating. you guys are debating things you shouldn’t be debating. you’re looking for misdirects where there aren’t any. this isn’t a spoiler. Sakura is not a master. you were never supposed to think that.
I’m not sure it’s fair to say we were NEVER supposed to think that. They did show Sakura having the leftover scars on her hand from Command Seals in the second or third episode, and we see her speaking with Gilgamesh, so it’s not unreasonable to think she’s involved somehow. Frankly it wouldn’t have killed the show to just have Shinji outright admit that Sakura WAS originally a Master, but that she transferred over to his control.
Rider rode a pegasus in the original Stay Night. that one went down a little differently.
Lol, i honestly kind of figured it out after Shirou’s classmates mentioned that he use to be in the archery and was basically the ace, but he quit. They even hinted out how heroic spirits can be summoned by past, present, or future in the beginning of the episodes. It really wasn’t that hard — so i think it is believable. And when Archer shoots his arrow, there was a hilt that looked like Saber’s (even though it wasn’t, come to figure out — but it led me closer to my ‘theory’). Or when Rin mentions that Shirou and Archer were similar. Or when Shirou’s powers were literally the same because he was learning it off of Archer. A lot of it is subtle, but it really isn’t that hard to figure it out.
I actually agree with you. Just because of the fact that Rick’s response to the fact (they believe) the show has stated that servants can only be summoned from the past is “I’ll just stick to my guts”…
If he believes that servants can only be summoned from the past as a rule, then how can he so adamantly stick to the idea that Archer is from the future.
But if I’m honest, I’ve actually been more suspect of Eric. Mainly because he immediately started implying that Archer may be from the future, in the FIRST episode! He literally sees Archer and says “Can Servants be summoned from the future?” He apparently bases this on the ‘futuristic’ clothing Archer wears, but its not really futuristic tho?? Lancer wears essentially the same outfit, just blue and without the coat. And then in every episode after that, Eric has determinedly pointed out any instance of similarity between Archer and Shirou and ignored and discrepancy (such as their differing ideals).
The biggest thing for me though, is that no one has thought of Archer possibly being Kiritsugu. They literally have the exact same ideologies yet Rick nor Eric don’t notice. If they are really able to theorize about Future Archer from such loose threads, how come the haven’t even considered the possibility of Kiritsugu? Its a far more likely theory.
I agree. Drawing the comparison between Shirou and Archer is something they’ve been doing for a long time now, and Eric literally mentioned the future thing in one of the first episodes. And as was mentioned, when you discuss a show, episode by episode, with other people, you tend to draw out more information because other people’s perspectives allow you to catch the things you would have missed on your own. Additionally, by watching an episode a week, they have time to let information sink in and think it over before going into the next one. Does Rick know more than the others? Sure, he has a better grasp of the what they’re based on, and generally has more knowledge than the others about shows like these, so he has a bit of foresight in that department.
Lastly, as many others have also pointed out, the show drops hints. If you pay attention, it’s a very feasible theory to make, and I’ve honestly been expecting them to make the connection for some time now, considering that Eric already threw it out there weeks ago. To say that it’s unrealistic to have figured it out is kind of an insult to the writers and creators who’ve obviously put a lot of work into the series and how the story is told.
Anyway, that’s my opinion of it. Think of it what you will.
Agreed, Guessing that archer is Kiritsugu Emiya would had made a lot of sense but Shirou?!? To conclude that you need to make several leaps of logic while also overlooking more likely candidates
oops, guess I clicked on the wrong reply button, thought it was the one below the comment I wanted to reply too, not above it, you can just ignore this, lol.
To be fair, Illya being a potential route really isn’t all that bad, they are so far removed from each other, and they aren’t even real siblings. He is just a random orphan that Kiritsigu took in, and they had zero contact with each other their entire lives, so it’s not like they grew up as adopted siblings either. As far as each is concerned, they are no different than any other stranger on the streets, they just happen to have a passing connection to Kiritsigu. In fact, it would make way more sense then Saber, seeing as she isn’t even a real person, but just a ghost of the past, lol.
To be fair, Illya being a potential route really isn’t all that bad, they are so far removed from each other, and they aren’t even real siblings. He is just a random orphan that Kiritsigu took in, and they had zero contact with each other their entire lives, so it’s not like they grew up as adopted siblings either. As far as each is concerned, they are no different than any other stranger on the streets, they just happen to have a passing connection to Kiritsigu. In fact, it would make way more sense then Saber, seeing as she isn’t even a real person, but just a ghost of the past, lol.
Dude, I have watched Fate UBW with multiple people and at least half of them guessed that spoiler before the second season. It really isn’t a stretch especially considering these dudes’ jobs are literally to break apart and analyze movies / shows and theory craft. Some characters, like Medea, have outright said “oh you two are exactly alike” and the show goes out of it’s way to establish a deep connection between the 2 characters and drops hints constantly. Hell there is a gigantic clue in episode 0 and 1 that flat out spells out who he is if you pay attention and know how the summoning system works. I think you are being overly skeptical and maybe are just bad at analyzing shows yourself because Fate makes this twist pretty dang obvious, I’ve seen many people guess it before especially if they have already seen Zero.